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Post by Dave on Nov 7, 2007 22:48:37 GMT -5
I honestly think Gravel attracts much more people than just Democrats, I wasn't a registered Dem till recently, and the only reason I did register was to vote for Mike! I'm sure there are plenty of registered Republicans who could swing to a Gravel vote too. Anyway we definitely do need to get this ship sailing.
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Post by thomaspaine on Nov 7, 2007 23:31:33 GMT -5
I honestly think Gravel attracts much more people than just Democrats, I wasn't a registered Dem till recently, and the only reason I did register was to vote for Mike! I'm sure there are plenty of registered Republicans who could swing to a Gravel vote too. Anyway we definitely do need to get this ship sailing. Indeed. He is one of 2 logical candidates.
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Post by sparkylikesfire on Nov 8, 2007 13:36:38 GMT -5
The stem cell thing with Ron Paul goes back to his hyper pro-life stance. He wants to overturn Roe v. Wade!
Whenever people ask me why I support Gravel and not Paul, I tell them straight up:
1. Gravel will implement the National Initiative. 2. Gravel is pro-choice and not selective on personal liberties. 3. Gravel will enact an effective foreign policy whereby we engage with other nations on an equal level and inspire cooperation via positive example- instead of Paul's isolationist intentions which are completely counter-productive to operating in and contributing to our global society.
To me anyways, the choice could not be more obvious. They differ in a few other areas- but these are critical issues that have the greatest implications for America and the world.
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Post by mikes on Nov 8, 2007 22:50:36 GMT -5
I'm kind of surprised the lack of faith people have in the National Initiative. I have posted information about the National Initiative in about 6 forums, and so far everyone is giving me the same reasons why they are against it. The reason they give is how people "aren't smart enough to be lawmakers, thus they shouldn't have that power because it'll be destructive."
I think people are too near-sighted to realize the great opportunities that the National Initiative will bring us.
According to their logic, we aren't wise enough to vote for our representatives, so why have a democracy. Let's all go back to a monarchy, instead. Am I rite or what?
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Post by go go gravel on Nov 8, 2007 23:11:41 GMT -5
If you can vote for someone to represent you on the issues, then I trust you to vote directly on the issues. I heard Mike speak about this and it made a lot of sense. People just need to listen and understand what its about and understand that most of congress doesn't read what it votes on.
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Post by biphenylene on Nov 9, 2007 18:57:19 GMT -5
Ron Paul is attractive because he is honest and looks good against a backdrop of neoconderthals. He is really an extremist in moderate clothing. The John Birch Society rates him a perfect 100 along with Tom Tancredo. He is paleolibertarian, although much more palatable than a neoconderthal, his views will lead to less liberty for many if ever implemented. He has long been an advocate of restricting the reproductive liberties of the female half of our population. He is a member of the right wing Association of American Physicians and Surgeons which publishes "scientific" papers which are not peer reviewed and are scorned by the scientific community. These dangerous people attempt dismiss global warming as a hoax perpetrated by climate scientists in pursuit of grant money. Ron Paul thinks we should leave the United Nations. He also wants to shrink our government to such a size that we could never rely on it to protect us from corporate usurpation of our civil liberties as a condition of employment. Ron Paul is fine for exposing the hypocrisy displayed by his GOP opponents. If he runs as a third party candidate, even better. If he were to actually win the GOP nomination, I would have to vote for the democratic nominee. Even if the nominee was (ugh) Hillary...
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Post by biphenylene on Nov 9, 2007 19:48:02 GMT -5
Ron Paul is attractive because he is honest and looks good against a backdrop of neoconderthals. He is really an extremist in moderate clothing. The John Birch Society rates him a perfect 100 along with Tom Tancredo. He is paleolibertarian, although much more palatable than a neoconderthal, his views will lead to less liberty for many if ever implemented. He has long been an advocate of restricting the reproductive liberties of the female half of our population. He is a member of the right wing Association of American Physicians and Surgeons which publishes "scientific" papers which are not peer reviewed and are scorned by the scientific community. These dangerous people attempt dismiss global warming as a hoax perpetrated by climate scientists in pursuit of grant money. Ron Paul thinks we should leave the United Nations. He also wants to shrink our government to such a size that we could never rely on it to protect us from corporate usurpation of our civil liberties as a condition of employment.
Ron Paul is fine for exposing the hypocrisy displayed by his GOP opponents. If he runs as a third party candidate, even better. If he were to actually win the GOP nomination, I would have to vote for the democratic nominee. Even if the nominee was (ugh) Hillary...
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Post by thomaspaine on Nov 13, 2007 22:46:35 GMT -5
Sec. 8. Disqualifications for office.
The following persons shall be disqualified for office:
First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God.
Second, with respect to any office that is filled by election by the people, any person who is not qualified to vote in an election for that office.
Third, any person who has been adjudged guilty of treason or any other felony against this State or the United States, or any person who has been adjudged guilty of a felony in another state that also would be a felony if it had been committed in this State, or any person who has been adjudged guilty of corruption or malpractice in any office, or any person who has been removed by impeachment from any office, and who has not been restored to the rights of citizenship in the manner prescribed by law.
This is section 8 of the North Carolina constitution. It should make you rethink states rights and reducing the power of central government.
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